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• I don't think a magical girl needs to fight specifically. There's lots of series where they don't.

  • Agreed. My definition namely drew using Google's "define:" search feature as well as my personal exposure to the magical girl genre, all of which namely included women fighting. This particular definition does better apply to Sailor Moon and is essential to my response.

• That guy has always been an idiot to me. I don't really remember which of his reviews I watched, but it felt so wrong and biased against what he was 'reviewing'.

  • For god's sake, the nostalgia critic is a comedian, not a reviewer, the fact that you want someone like that to be fair and un-biased makes you the moron. And the fact that someone is an idiot because you only saw a few videos of him makes you a bigger moron

    • oh he was trying to be funny? he wasn't. I'm a moron for having an opinion! oh my god, it all makes sense now. /sarcasm

• ....You guys realize that Nostalgia Critic is a CHARACTER, right? Not a guy just...being an asshole because he can?

  • You also realize this kind of "character" blatantly perpetuates a negative attitude that needs to be responded to. If it is just a "character", then I am responding to "that character." If he was pressured by audiences to talk about Sailor Moon, it's still possible to have given a better presentation about, such as bringing other hosts of the show who *do* understand Japanese animation better. Instead, it was handled in very poor taste, which necessitated this type of response.

    • Exactly. The character should rag on what makes it a good or bad show. Doug's blatant conservative feminist side has finally pervaded his reviews and overtaken it.

    • Also Doug Walker (IRL) seems to love intelligent debate. Giving thought to understanding an opposite point of view and respond to it, calmly and rationally is exactly the kind of thing that moves society forward. People need to be able to both disagree, debate and respect each other while doing it. I can't give you enough props for doing just that.

    • Actually, as a fan of Sailor Moon, I'd say he handled it in a hilarious and pretty fair way, all things considered. Even at the end of the review he says 'Well, it wasn't really harmful and probably did a lot of good for girls.' If you wanted a complimentary, moderate review of Sailor Moon and it's cultural impacts, you shouldn't have been watching the Nostalgia critic. His entire gimmick is making points in an over-the-top fashion. More than that, the idea that someone who hasn't watched the entire show and read the manga and watched tons of anime can't comment on it in a negative light is just plain elitism and snobbery. Frankly, the way Japan over-sexualizes girls is something that needs to be remarked on in a negative light.

    • except that, you know, the people that requested it, might have been expecting just what he did, since that is the character... if they wanted a more contextualized analisis then they shouldn't have requested it to him. and it's not a negative attitude either, that's like saying that tarantino is a violent person, it is made for entertainment purposes.
      you are taking a funny over-the-top commentary way too seriously.

    • Your "article" fails to mention the fact that NC admitted that the show was harmless, and was from the perspective of a guy who caught a couple episodes on TV and was trying to understand why it was so popular, not some kind of Sailor Moon/anime expert. This is not a new thing, tons of people make reviews about things from the perspective of an outsider. You cannot expect him to research the entire Sailor Moon library for a 20 minute video. Calm down.

    • Thinking I've been watching the show a bit longer then you have. Maybe I'm not Japanese but I know enough about they're animation. Nostalgia Critic, never said anything bad about the shows was drawn. You seem to "blatantly perpetuates a negative attitude that needs to be responded. Only thought I felt he missed was the bad voice acting!

      Love Sailor Moon, have the set and Sailor V only 2 also.

      • yeah I never liked Serena's voice she always was a crybaby more in the English dub... I only enjoyed Raye and Lita's voice. I hated the others

        • Those aren't their names. Especially for the new dub. Their real names are Usagi, Rei, and Makoto.

        • We did not grow up with the Japanese names, the English version was aired on Cartoon Network's Toonami back in the late 90s and those are the names I remember by Dic productions

        • Well I get that but those aren't their names. The dub will have their original names as well so the old has become largely irrelevant now.

        • same here, I like the original ones best. the new Viz dub sucks, and now I hate anime because they killed it! I like Funimation dubbing the best

    • so you'd rather remove the comedy from the comedy show and replace it with a simple discussion as to why Sailor Moon is good? Errr, gunna have to disagree with that sentiment.

      There is a time and a place for a mature, balanced, and unbiased review of Sailor moon and it's topics such as female sexuality, gender roles, empowerment, ect. But I do not feel it should be on the shoulders of a character such as the NC to deliver that. Within that 'review' (which it isn't, it is a comedy show the same way the Daily show isn't a news show) he hired a man named "Dr,Hack" to create for him a formula for television to make him rich and famous, had a flash back to having an argument with his penis, which ended with his penis pulling a gun on him and shooting him. This is a character that was constantly besieged by the burger king, casper the friendly ghost, a bum looking for change, his floor, and murdered by a 'spooky' balloon.

      Part of the humour in his show is that he DOESN'T understand why something is the way it is. With understanding comes familiarity, and with that it does not breed for good comedy. Even if he did bring on one of the other reviewers on the site, such as JesuOtaku, the review likely would not have been changed very much but rather would have had the anime reviewer playing as comedic straight man to the NC's over reactions.

      Good article, I just feel as if the anger here is slightly misplaced.

      • This article also proved to be incredibly biased itself too.

    • Oh give it a rest. You basically admitted to responding to a fictional character. If you've ever watched his typical episodes he's much harsher to them than he was in this video. The point is not to do it from the point of some anime fanboy or feminist but as a regular viewer. You can spin the show all you want to try to make it way more epic than it ever was. Sometimes the ditzy protagonist is just a ditzy protagonist. And sometimes the only reason there's a panty shot is to appeal to young boys.

    • It's a show. He's supposed to make stabs and snide comments about shows. If he did a review as himself, I'm sure he'd give much more credit.
      Even on some reviews where he makes fun of the movie, he says in commentary or later on that he does actually like it, in complete opposite to the NC.
      Look at his Facebook post, he's obviously being more mature than an anime fangirl.

    • He's mostly does the reviews for the jokes.

    • It's a cartoon, not life. Maybe you should learn to take a joke?

      If you're even capable of thinking someone's made-up opinions on a cartoon can be in "poor taste" maybe you shouldn't be allowed to watch anime. It's obviously becoming a disturbing obsession.

  • I know Nostalgia Critic is a character, but the show still expresses Doug and Rob Walker's thoughts and opinions.

    That being said, most of the stuff featured on Nostalgia Critic was done in good fun and it's not like it was a personal attack against Sailor Moon or its fans.

    • Not entirely true. Doug Walker has gone on-record in a video once stating that all views and opinions given by the Nostalgia Critic are of that of the character he portrays and that his character generally portrays the perspective of the general viewers. He has gone on to explain that he has his own views and opinions and that a some films he has torn apart as the NC he personally likes.

      To be quite honest I think this entire article is taking things waaaaay to seriously.

      • He likes many of the films on a "They're so bad they're good" basis, he's not just pretending good films are bad. Just because his opinion is exaggerated for comedic effect doesn't mean he's lying or making shit up about how he feels. Hell, many of Critic's lines are derived from on-the-spot riffing between Doug and Rob as they watch the movie. And no, this article takes the video just seriously enough, because this is one of those videos where Critic's thoughts most certainly do mirror Doug's.

• I think his review would've been better if he had one of the anime reviewers on to counter his opinions. He kept complaining about the reused footage, of course there's going to be reused footage it was made on a budget like most other shows that were being shown at that time and even today.

  • Budget is not an excuse for being bad. It's an explanation that lets us know the creators weren't idiots, but it doesn't make the show good. If all you have is blue paint, you don't attempt to paint a portrait and pass it off as generic or mainstream, even if what you make is good. Objectively, it doesn't make the art any better. It just gives us a fuzzy feeling. Heck, most things would be better if you threw a few million dollars more into it.

    • Really? Then why are the Transformers etc big bidget movies utter crap, while smaller productions, such as Moon, are really effective?

      • Well, I think the Transformers movies would have been worse with less money, and probably a bit better with more money.

        The first Transformers movie has a higher IMDB rating than Sailor Moon. That's not indicative of total consent, and I am even a little surprised. But "I like it" =/= Effective. Some people love Transformers, some people love Sailor Moon. My distaste for both is irrelevant to this. The fact is, being broke doesn't make everything you produce better.

        • Also, money does not a good movie make.

        • Lack of money does not make a good movie, inherently, either.

        • No one said it did. The fact is that bigger budgets have nothing to do with how good a film is. However, smaller budgets may explain some things such as the need to reuse animation. Art doesn't depend on money in order to be good, even if it's just a silly girly anime.

• Um......It's just a show

  • It generally is not an interesting thing to say, "It's just..." when discussing pop culture. We all know it is just a show, we all have decided to care for the purposes of discussion, and arguing about the nuances of this sort of product acts as a proxy for arguing about bigger issues (like say, Feminism, the Serialization of Young Women, and the difference between a Good Character and a Character that is a Good Role Model).

    It is like going to see "Pacific Rim" and complaining that there are giant robots. By having the discussion you are buying into giving a shit rather than being dismissive.

    • The point being made was the article writer intentionally adds and tries to spin everything as some great example of feminism and brilliant female writing. Sometimes a spade is a spade. And a dumb shallow main character is just dumb and shallow. While sometimes dressing 14 year old girls in miniskirts that basically give constant panty shots is just obvious sexualization to attract the other gender.

      • The phrase, "Um... It's just a (whatever)" doesn't add anything. If that is all you have to say, then don't bother. He isn't refuting either, he isn't saying anything. It is a waste of space.

        • It does add something because the article clearly tries to portray it as more than a show and refuses to take anything at face value.

  • THANK YOU!

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  • You both are great: NC and the author of this review. ^^

    • Glad to know I'm not the only one who liked both the NC review (though I'll admit I winced a few times he got stuff wrong) and this article ^_^

• You anime fans obviously cant take a joke

  • Yeah we can. I found the show hilarious.

  • "You anime fans"? Funny coming from the guy with the Yu Yu Hakusho avatar...

    • Likely he meant fanboys.

  • Well, the stupid anime fans.

• It was a comical review. A satire. He brought up valid points about an anime he isn't too crazy about. I liked it as a kid and as an adult I still like it but I can acknowledge the flaws. Plus, at the end he said that he gets why people like it and that its harmless. If you didn't like he's review or you thought it wasn't funny that's fine, but no need to be offended by a review made for comedic purposes only.

  • Satire is meant to break down powerful institutions and people. Satire is not an excuse to mock those who are constantly oppressed by said powerful institutions. Women (and other marginalized groups) are already mocked in a non-satirical sense; they don't need to be TOLD "haha it's funny because I'm mocking the people who make fun of you by parroting the things they tell you every day."

    • Did we watch the same Review? NC was in no way "mocking" women, he as pointing out the objectification of women (or girls in this case) that is in Sailor Moon

      • He also makes fun of guys and how they think with their dicks. He is also respectful of the cultural differences between Japan and America. If was really 'mocking' women, he would have said a lot worse but he's too smart for that.

      • In the review, Sailor Moon's so called formula is summarized as a "fourteen year old girl who acts stupid and transforms to make herself look stupid and slutty." So he slut shames and insults the main character within the first few minuets. If that is not insulting women, I don't know what is. Further more, HE objectifies the characters way more than the show ever did. He first watched the show as a teen because he found the characters attractive. However, that is not the intent of the show. The characters don't dress the way they do to impress and/for the sexual pleasure of men. As the article states, Sailor Moon was created by a woman for women.

        • Not to be rude, but the intent an author may have with a show can be lost among the audience. Especially if that audience is from another country which is comprised of people who think that most things that come out of Japan is weird to begin with. And even if she came over and said: "This show is for girls", people would still have their own opinions on the matter as they may not be able to see all the good the show can do or just don't understand how it could be.

        • ok, they might not be dressed for the sexual pleasure of men, but do you honestly think any boy what may have seen it would not have thought they were attractive?and watched for that reason? Can you give any good reason for them to have such short skirts on? Secondly, Serena is very dim-witted and shallow in the beginning, also he called the uniform "sexuallized" not "slutty", he pointed out that it was exploited sexualisation, nothing more,

        • What men think watching the show is irrelevant to how they are treated in the show. If someone sexualizes them, it's their problem rather than the show's. Secondly, Serena/Usagi does need to mature but he still made her and her intelligence the punchline of the joke. Why would I think the review was going to be fair if he insults the main character so much so quickly? Also, nope. He says slutty so still slut shaming.

        • When it's the show that does the sexualizing, it is the shows problem, secondly, Serena's intelligence was a joke, at least in the seasons I watched as a child, even though she was the main character, the was also the comedic relief, if you think what he said was insulting, well you might need to culture yourself a bit, because it was not nearly as bad as it could have been, and was also true, thirdly, your going to have to explain your view of slut shaming, because if your the type that defends a woman getting mad at a man looking at the woman in a mini skirt that hardly hides anything, well that's a separate argument

        • I'm sorry but since when did the word slutty become nigger for women? Get off your high horse. It's a description of the way the costumes were designed. Is criticizing the way someone dresses themselves just taboo now? And in the beginning the main character is in fact...really...really...reallllly stupid.

        • How the hell is sexualization NOT the show's fault?

          It's the show that made the designs so over-the-top skimpy. How is that any fault of the viewer?

        • Over-the-top skimpy? Hardly, their outfits are no more revealing than a figure skater or a female gymnast!

        • True, but I don't recall female gymnasts having to wear mini-skirts the size of an average belt.

          The outfits in Sailor Moon are not practical like the leotard of an athlete, they are just skimpy for the sake of it. Or do you know any purpose for them except for fanservice?

        • Me too, and neither does Sailor Moon. That's just a silly exaggeration if it was that short it wouldn't even cover her panties. For some kind of scale, look at the artwork, her skirt is at least the same length of her head (and this is anime, that's kinda big!).Not saying that her skirt is not short by most standards -truly it is- but that kind of exaggeration is a little ridiculous.

          In what way are the outfits not practical?? They girls are often portrayed running around and jumping impossibly high distances, not all that unlike athletes.If the skirts were longer they would get in the way and limit movement.

          And really, they are the outfits the creator -a university educated woman- wanted them to wear. Is that really so objectionable?

        • 1.: I was exaggerating for the sake of humour. Which is something many people in this thread do not seem to get.

          2.: When do people in jobs that require physical agility wear mini-skirts? Why would they not wear pants (which provide more comfortability) or armour (which provides more protection)? I mean, they are fighting evil monsters, why don't they cover their skin a bit more? That seems like the logical solution, not a mini-skirt.

          3.: A university-decree doesn't make you uncriticisable. And whilst this is most definitely a matter of taste, I am merely demonstrating my own taste here.

        • (I wrote a reply once already.but it seems to have vanished in to thin air...)

          1. OK well sorry, but as you prefaced it with "True" it was hard to tell if your were actually trying to make a serious counter argument or not.

          2. Well I've already given the examples of figure skaters who often wear a leotard with a skirt piece attached (which is exactly what the Sailor Senshi wear when they are transformed). They do this of course because it gives them freedom of movement, and the skirt piece ads an air femininity to the outfits and flows well with their movements.

          As for trousers and comfort. Many girls do in fact prefer to wear skirts. Personally (and I am female, but I know my username of choice often leads people to think I am male), I find skirts and trousers to be about equal in terms of comfort. In terms of moveability I would say skirts above knee length would win out in all honesty.

          There is more modesty in wearing trousers generally but to achieve the same amount of flexibility, the trousers would have to be skintight. Realistically you would be able to see the clear outlines of her thighs and butt. Wouldn't that kind of defeat the purpose of wearing trousers to cover up?

          The point about armor is an interesting one. The Sailor V manga kinda covers this topic, where the main character disguises herself as a Sentai warrior complete with armor, but finds herself to weighed down to be able to do anything useful. Armor is pretty heavy stuff and these are 5ft tall (or thereabouts) girls we are talking about.
          Interestingly, in modern fiction, women with super powers or magical powers are rarely equipped with any actual armor (or at least any that would realistically save them from serious injury).

          There is also the fact that the fighting in Sailor Moon mostly consists of, twirling, posing and shooting magical projectiles and beams of energy, rather than getting up close with the enemy and physically fighting. It's a fighting style that is more about being graceful and girly than anything else, hence why I think the figure skater comparison really does work when talking about Sailor Moon.

          3. Perhaps, I shouldn't of said the University Educated part. That wasn't the main point I wanted to get across, nor was I trying to imply that makes anyone infailable or uncriticisable . It seems to me that lot of the commentors here -perhaps not specifically you- are under the impression Sailor Moon was invented by a man or group of men who put the characters in mini skirts just for sex appeal. I find that kind of attitude kind of maddening. The are many reasons why a girl would wear a mini skirt -for comfort, style, flexibility, to keep cooler on a hot day, and yes sometimes for sex appeal too- but it seems people are focusing on the sex appeal only, ignoring any other possible reason, and acting as if the entire show is some kind of abhorrent fanservice-fest because of it.

        • Well, I do appreciate your logical reasoning.

          I guess in the end we'll be forced to agree to disagree. I'm not a fan of Sailor Moon and you are.
          We should just leave it at that, shouldn't we?

        • Sounds like someone has a case of "selective hearing".

        • The main character in the beginning at least is at best a complete airhead who literally goes shopping so she doesn't think of her terrible grades...and the outfits are pretty slutty including panty shots of 14 year old girls that had no point other than to sexual them for the male audience. So nothing in that description was in fact false. And just because you target one gender in an audience doesn't mean you ignore the other gender. Hence why guys in action movies tend to lose their shirts all the time. Also making fun of the obvious fan service isn't objectifying anything.

      • A woman (Naoko Takeuchi) dressing her characters in clothing of her choice (in this case, leotards with mini skirts over them) is objectifying them?

        • explain how it isnt? just because a woman put the shirt skirts on the characters does NOT change the fact that the skirts are very sex appealing, which in this context makes it objectification, how would you feel if a man designed them instead of a woman? If this was to be the full out power to the women show everyone is making it out to be, why then open yourself to what you are fighting?

        • I ask you, if a girl or woman wears a short skirt, is she objectifying herself in your eyes?
          Do you believe that the only reason women choose wear mini skirts is for the titillation of men?

          Honestly, what exactly do you think women are fighting against? Shouldn't a women be able to wear what she wants? That is a part of true feminism in my eyes. It's attitudes like yours that are more harmful to women rights than Sailor Moon ever will be.

        • It depends on the situation in all honestly, yes you can wear whatever you want for whatever reason, but don't get mad if I stare at you while your wearing that short skirt if you have no reason to be wearing it.
          I'm not a woman if you hadn't noticed so I can't think of any practical reasons to wear short skirts; leotards, swimsuits and the like I understand the reasoning for perfectly, and I am aware that we men still look at them, hell we'll still look if you were covered in body armor, but you have a reason to get mad at that.
          I truly have no idea what women are fighting for in the sense of clothes, I personally feel that if you choose to wear skimpy clothes in a dangerous area it is your duty to yourself to take every precaution to protect yourself, that is not saying men have a right to abuse you either, but there is a thing called personal responsibility

        • Expect I'm not getting mad at men for looking at girls (either myself, other girls or fictional characters) in short skirts, that's not really the point I am trying to make.I am fully aware that most hetrosexual men will look at girls dressed in a way that they find sexually appealing. I wouldn't be surprised if many guys started watching the show because they found the girls attractive.
          What bothered me was the way the assumption that there is only one reason why the girls (or any girls real of fiction) are dressed like they are and that it is somehow wrong and shameful.
          Yes, sometimes girls just want to wear short skirts -maybe for sexual reasons or maybe not- most teenage girls will have a mini skirt or two in their closet. The creator was once a teenage girl too, and it's not impossible she liked wearing mini skirts at that age too and maybe thought it would be a fun item of clothing to dress her characters in or for what ever reason.... It doesn't have to have anything to do with objectification.

        • Okay, everyone saying Naoko Takeuchi chose to draw the girls that way? No, that isn't what happened. See, she co-created the series alongside Utena creator Kunihiro Ikuhara, who requested that Takeuchi put the girls in tiny schoolgirl skirts because that's his fetish. She reluctantly agreed, on one condition: He had to let her indulge in her fetish too, that being mysterious men in tuxedos and fancy masquerade masks.

        • He told her to put them in schoolgirl outfits to make it more relateable to Japanese girls in Japan.

        • well it sure seemed to me as though you were getting mad, I never said there was only one reason, thats just the only reason I as a man can think of, and no I don't think its "wrong" for a woman to dress that way, but for a 14 year girl, yes I think its wrong, that makes me worry about peoples morals, I understand in japan, age of consent is different, and in some manner I understand that, but I still do not understand or maybe can't accept a 14 year old girl in such a short skirt for as far as I see no reason, and where I do understand some women like wearing short skirts, I cant see why unless it is for the attention of a man, i just cant see anything else, I'm not saying not to just that I don't get

    • Are you kidding me? You obviously have no idea who Doug Walker is or anything about his views, so you can stop pulling stuff out of your ass

    • So women now need to be protected from criticism and mockery? That's not sexist at all...wait yes it totally is.

    • Satire applies to everyone. It's not an excuse to mock those who are oppressed, it is a means of mocking them. A very effective one. Everyone should be mocked. You shouldn't avoid poking fun at a group because they're disenfranchised. Look at the gays. They're marginalized, they deserve better than they're getting. But they're also hilarious to poke fun at.

• Doug's response to this is more mature and accepting than this entire article is.

  Lighten up.

  Sincerely,
  A huge SM fan

  • And my response to Doug is,

    You are a self-indulgent, sexist, untalented, waste of semen, obese hypocrite who lives in the parent's basement!

    Go die in a fire faggot!

    Sincerely,
    People with a life!

    • How tasteless. Good for you being a bigger shit.

• You do realize Doug Walker isn't NC and he plays a character, right? While some opinions he may share, they don't reflect what he does and all. As someone who loved Sailor Moon too, I saw where he came from. I think you took him a little TOO seriously. Nice opinion but uh, calm down. Its okay!

  • Oh look, another sad waste of semen defending that no talent hack who can't come up with a REAL character like Dana Carvey!

    Go join Doug in the fire Alevan!